> What is all this trouble in Belfast about?

What is all this trouble in Belfast about?

Posted at: 2015-04-20 
It's all over the news and I heard something about loyalists and republicans

Jusrt another girl puts it well. The British flaG WAS TAKEN down AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE OF n. iRELAND. nO OTHER COUNTRY would allow this. No wonder the people are angry. The IRA MPs who forced this to happen should be jailed. Until the flag goes up there will be more and more violence. Its a crazy thing to take the peoples flag DOWN> Imagine in China or America the countrys flag which has ALWAYS been up being taken down cos a few Al Quada terrorists objected !!!! Same here.

Belfast Town Hall is exactly what it says in the title. It therefore is only allowed to fly the Union Flag on selected dates in the year.

This link will explain. Designated flag flying days UK. See link 2.

1. http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/hon...

2. http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/hon...

The Loyalist folk of Belfast want the Union Flag flying over their town hall every single day. That is the issue. However, the Belfast City Council are only obeying the rules as set down by the UK government (see link 2 above).

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Unlike any other country I know of Ulster must celebrate a war which took place in 1690 and every year get up the noses of their Catholic neighbours. I have no idea why the marches and Orange order were not banned a couple of hundred years ago.

No one parades in a similar manner for having defeated Germany nor Japan just to mention two wars (which last) as opposed to the Boyne which would be looked on today as a skirmish. I am not Catholic.

A small minority of idiots with nothing better to do stirring up trouble and according to news on earlier local drug gangs are using the trouble as a distraction for their criminal dealings.Apparently hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of cocaine were found.

That aside what people are failing to acknowledge is the flag isn't flown on a daily basis elsewhere either plus if people don't like the decisions made by their democratically elected govt they can vote against them next time round.Wasters pretending to be patriots.

They have taken the Union Flag down outside the Belfast City hall, now it can only fly for certain days in the year. I'm sure you know all about the troubles, so that's why it's such a big deal. The flag has a whole different meaning. The protestants usually fly the Union Jack and the catholics fly the Irish flag generally. Me personally, being a catholic and from Belfast, I think it is all very petty, it is the country's flag and it is a government building, they should fly it.

Since NI is part of Britain, we have the Union Jack flying at the City Hall all year round. But they've now decided to only fly the Union Jack on designated days (eg. Royal birthdays), just like all the other parts of Britain. The British ones here don't like that, so they decided to effing riot and close off the whole of f uking Belfast!! It sorta escalated and now the Protestants(Mostly British) and Catholics(mostly Irish) are fighting each other. My friend nearly got stabbed the other day in town because some guys thought she was Catholic, she would've been attacked if she hadnt have changed her name to an English name (She told them her name was Emma). It's all so stupid, all over one effing flag

I’m assuming that you’re talking about Northern Ireland in 2013 and NOT talking about pre-1969 Northern Ireland here. That’s when non-head of household Catholics over the age of eighteen got the vote in Northern Ireland. One year AFTER blacks got the vote in the US.

A sizeable minority of people in Northern Ireland have got to get with the programme and change. Some have got to learn to put their insular, parochial, bigotry behind them. Another sizeable minority find the Union Jack highly offensive. What to do?

Where do you live? Have they flown the Union Jack over your local administrative complex non-stop since 1906? What makes the City Hall in Belfast so special that it’s the only building in the UK to fly the Union Jack permanently for the past hundred years? The Union Jack doesn’t even fly on top of Buckingham Palace every day of the year. If they want to be British then behave the same as the rest of us.

List of days when the Union Jack will be flown over the City Hall in Belfast

http://www.channel4.com/news/union-flag-...

Maybe they should erect a statue of the founder of the IRA outside Stormont alongside Edward Carson ( founder of the Ulster Volunteers ( modern UVF )) to even things up a bit and not cause offence to some who work there and as a tribute to those who like to live in the past. One does wonder at the fuss that will be made when Martin McGuinness becomes First Minister of Northern Ireland if there’s such commotion over a flag. That day is coming soon. But the Northern Irish are resilient having endured 30 years of trouble and will no doubt overcome that beckoning hurdle, when eventually, it comes along.

Northern Irish National Identity 2011 Census

39.89% British only

25.26% Irish only

20.94% Northern Irish only

0.66% British and Irish only

6.17% British and Northern Irish

1.06% Irish and Northern Irish

1.02% British, Irish and Northern Irish only

5.0% Other

National Identity (Classification 1): KS202NI (administrative geographies) ( Census 2011 )

http://www.ninis2.nisra.gov.uk/public/pi...

I think that this shows that the united Ireland agenda has a long way to be pushed. To me, this looks like there are about 25-26% united Irelanders with about 46% Protestant unionists and about 21-22% Catholic unionists. Then if there was ever going to be a united Ireland, don’t you think that we’d better ask those in the rest of Ireland to see if they are interested in taking care of one of the UK’s biggest problems? It’d be a bit like buying Honest John’s best patched up motor after it’s been involved in a total write-off, only to find that out that you have to drive that car for the rest of your life. I’m assuming that the rest of the UK would be a given. I’d assume that we could hardly wash our hands of it quickly enough if a vote ever came to pass.

First things first. I think that the only way a united Ireland has any chance, is if there is an independent Northern Ireland first, followed sometime in the future with some great unification breakthrough. Given the circumstances, I doubt if this will ever happen in my lifetime.

I’m an advocate of an independent Northern Ireland free from the shackles of both the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland without allegiances to either.

That’s the real story. I wonder what the figures will be like in the 2021, 2031, 2041, 2051, 2061, etc censuses? There are tens of thousands of flags on lamp-posts all over Northern Ireland. The only feasible solution is to ban flags.

The Belfast council democratically voted to fly the flag on designated days equalling Parliament buildings and other council building but they are throwing their toys out of the pram because they cannot handle democracy,sad bastards.

Idiots who are economically oppressed. Ireland must get rid of the Euro and be more like the UK economically.

KEEP THE UNION JACK OUT OF IRELAND IN FACT GIVE THE IRISH THEIR COUNTRY BACK THAT WAS STOLEN,PROBLEM SOLVED

It's all over the news and I heard something about loyalists and republicans