Somebody must have mentioned 9/11.
The simple fact is that the building 7 incident alone is enough, for the sane amongst us, to question the official story.
When somebody, that includes you Funkentroll, can give me a link to a steel framed skyscraper that has fallen due to fire I will then be convinced. I can give plenty of examples of ones that have burned for days and not fallen if you want to trade Dr Funkentroll??
You give me one example then I give you one etc etc. are you up for it?
obviously you won't be as there are no examples as it has never happened.
@Clair
I really don't know what your point is? Are you trying to say that I think steel is unaffected by fire? Or are you trying to twist what I have said to fit with your narrative? The latter I think.
The Windsor building you quote, would this be it? note the picture after the fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tow...
Now do we want a spot the difference competition? Between the Windsor building, after burning for a whole day, and the three buildings that collapsed on 9/11, which burned for a couple of hours?
Usually however in a spot the difference comp the pictures are at least similar.
I think conspiracies are a fact of life. They happen all the time, and politics is full of conspiracies.
I don't think conspiracy nuts are crazy, but there are so many variations on the "9-11 was an inside job" theory,..they certainly cannot *all* be true! But I do not trust what any politician says. Being careful about what you say...speaking selectively...(lying) is politicians' stock in trade.
People do not like to question their governments, especially if they are "patriotic".
The WIkileaks and Snowden affairs show this. You can show people horrible, terrible things that our countries do, and people decide it is not "appropriate" to be too critical....and we make excuses. People have become blase about the things our governments actually do.
I think it's very easy to believe 9/11 was a conspiracy. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. Inside jobs are a fact of politics. The Romans did it, the British, the Russians, Germans,...everybody. We don't know the real goings on at the top.
And here we go again. Yet another "I found all the answers to a complex event in a 16-minute Youtube video!"
Yawn.
Real research isn't done on Youtube. The video you provided is proof of that. It makes all the usual mistakes that conspiracy theorists doing "research" make. It cherry picks and quote mines, uses tired and inaccurate meme's such as "official story", "only 2 buildings were hit by planes but 3 collapsed (actually 10 buildings were destroyed in NYC, not 3) and lets not forget the classic and completely false "building 7 collapsed into its own footprint." And as usual the producers focus on the minutia that and totally miss the big picture. Heck, they can't even get the number of casualties on 9/11 right - being over by 1,000!
There is nothing new or even remotely compelling in your little video. I stopped watching after the "collapsed in its own footprint" bit. Nothing here I haven't seen a thousand times before.
I can make a prima facie case right now for 19 terrorist scumbags hijacking 4 planes and flying them into symbols of American economic, military and political power to achieve their own political ends. Can you make a prima facie case for any alternative narrative? If you can't, as yourself why not.
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Anyone with limited knowledge of 9/11 before would have even less after watching that video. If is full of fallacies, inaccuracies and misleading information designed to push a particular agenda, not find the truth.
What we know about what happened on 9/11 doesn't come from just "the government". It comes from thousands of sources. Even the 9/11 Commission Report (which is by no means the official government story nor was it intended to be) is mostly a collection of material collected outside of government. Just knowing that we can see that your basic premise is completely false. It isn't a "us vs. the government" issue.
As I said before I can, right now, present a comprehensive, prima facie case that encompasses ALL of the available evidence and proves terrorism. I have been waiting 12 years for someone, anyone to attempt to do the same with any alternative hypothesis. So far no one has even tried. You certainly haven't. Why not? So where is this reasonable doubt then? Don't tell me it is in a handful of anomalies Truthers can't understand but the rest of us do. I've been down that road too many times.
9/11 was an act of terrorism isn't "the official story". It is the story.
Figuring out 9/11 is easy considering that members of the 9/11 Commission have come out and admitted that they were told to ignore, withhold evidence (such as Building 7) lie, cover up the investigation.
All you need to do is to follow the money and ask your self is "who benefited from the attacks?"
Ooh, ohh... this looks like fun... I wanna play.
While the challenge of showing another HIGH-RISE steel building that has collapsed from fire is bogus... just as bogus as me asking the Baron to demonstrate a 47-story tube-in-tube open floor design building that had been destroyed by controlled demolition...the fact is steel structures do badly in fire. The Delft University science building for example suffered a partial collapse after just a couple of hours of fire. Heck, WTC 5 and 6 both suffered partial collapses due to fire. The top 12 or so floors of steel framing of the Windsor Madrid suffered complete fire induced failure, the building only remaining standing due to its concrete core - which the WTC towers didn't have. I could go on and on with such examples all day long. But happily I don't have to.
Here is lots of technical information about the performance of steel structures in fire. Enjoy reading it Mr Baron. Real engineers know steel and fire don't mix. Why don't you?
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/f...
http://www.asce.org/Product.aspx?ID=2147...
http://www.steelconstruction.info/Fire_a...
https://blume.stanford.edu/content/colla...
http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build0...
http://www.civil.canterbury.ac.nz/fire/p...
http://www.jlconline.com/metal/q-a--perf...
Dr. Funkentroll is a terminal ********. I've encountered his ignorance many times. He's probably a paid fed shill.
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To those of you who believe people who think the 9-11 attacks were a conspiracy are crazy, have you done any research? Or have you just listened to the mainstream media about it and not done any research at all but still call them crazy? I ask that you watch this video and seriously tell me that you believe what the American government is telling you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PY_qM28rnA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA
